Talk:Richard Proenneke

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Richard Proenneke Site[edit]


per unanimous consensus of commenters here Beeblebrox (talk) 17:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The members of WP:NRHP are of the belief that every NRHP listing should have its own Wikipedia article, and have been busy lately in fulfillment of that goal, churning out stubs such as these not unlike one would create sausage. While their arguments for such are generally sound, the fact is that many of these articles are effectively permastubs read by few people, not to mention that most are riddled with POV and factual accuracy baggage by virtue of NRHP enthusiasts lazily parroting cherry-picked sources, with little interest on the part of others to fix those problems. Here is one such example. How is it benefiting the encyclopedia to have two separate articles which are so closely related to each other? While merging has occurred in the past, I've been reluctant to propose appropriate merges for the simple reason being that the members of WP:NRHP have chosen to determine "consensus" all by themselves in matters such as these, and have been more content to try and bully me into various trollfests than to have a reasonable discussion. Asking for other opinions here, thank you. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I think it is kind of silly to have a separate (and very short) article on the site. This article, Richard Proenneke, is quite good now. If the group working on the National Register of Historic Places wants to have a list of historic places, the items in the list can be linked to the various articles. That should be sufficient. CorinneSD (talk) 15:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
I managed to merge Susitna River Bridge without any objection at all a while back. I also agree that merging would be appropriate and beneficial to the encyclopedia. I'll go ahead and add the appropriate tags. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
It has now been over a month with no objections or indeed commentary of any kind, I think the merge can go forward. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:49, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree on merge also.Ward20 (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

McCandless link[edit]

An IP editor removed the link to Christopher McCandless as “spurious” but was reverted. I have re-removed it as I believe I see, and agree with, their point.

Proenneke knew what he was doing. He prepared himself, he had people who knew where he was, he knew how to live off the land, and he did it for over 30 years.

McCandless was a kid who had no idea what he was doing, nobody who knew where he was, and no concept of how to live off the land, and as such died in a matter of months.

They are just not the same thing, and it’s a little insulting to suggest that they are. I have to say as an Alaskan we don’t understand people’s fascination with cases like MCandless or Timothy Treadwell. These are people who came to our untamed wilderness and dared it to kill them, which it did because that’s what it does and it takes a lot of work to do it right, like Mr. Proenneke did. There’s no hard-and-fest rules for see also links, so this basically comes down to people’s opinions, and my opinion is that it does not belong here. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Dick's Father[edit]

Listed as serving in wwII but he was married in 1909 and dick was born in 1916. We sure his father didn't serve in wwi rather than wwii? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Ward20 (talk) 01:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)